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Author Topic: Pulling Spencer Lee’s Redshirt?  (Read 2104 times)
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« on: January 06, 2018, 12:13:35 PM »

Right decision?

Wouldn’t he get more out of learning in a college wrestling room for a year, get stronger, more knowledge?  Its not like its going to win them a National championship even if he wins the whole thing.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2018, 02:51:39 PM »

But he personally is in the mix for his own title.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 04:55:44 PM »

I think it is good that he is not redshirting.  He is ready to compete for a title now.  There are only 9.9 scholarships, and I would assume he is getting close to a full scholarship.  If he can compete for a title now, why have the scholarship doing nothing? 

I think there are 5 to 10 kids a year that fall into this category.  Would be great if UW could get one at some point.

The bigger question I think would be why bring in someone like Downey with his history?  I think brands was feeling a little pressure, considering the high expectations at Iowa.  If Lee redshirted and they did not bring in Downey, a 6th to 10h place finish would have been pretty likely.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 09:51:38 PM »

College wrestling is a peculiar sport. In many instances, the seniors are not at the top of their game, but actually over the hill. You see two-timers lose their bid for three-time status more often than you'd expect. Not sure if it's the effect of being ready to move on with your life ("HEW") or something actually related to physical development/decay.

Either way, there's a strong case to be made that Lee's optimal 4-year stretch is four consecutive years starting with this one, not starting next year.
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2018, 01:19:21 AM »

Great point jw, a body can only handle so many matches. Who knows how many lee has already had.He has had some health issues already and battling Gilman,Clark ,.McDonough ,Tom and terry on a daily basis is not gonna extend his career.
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2018, 01:19:21 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2018, 01:36:58 PM »

It may have to do with the fact that he may likely take an Olympic redshirt for 2020 anyways.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2018, 04:30:21 PM »

Hmmm, I thought I read somewhere that wrestlers body’s peak at age 28.  How old is Burroughs and Taylor already?  You think they are over the hill already?
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 07:49:47 PM »

A males physical peak may indeed be 28 .with the amount of matches wrestled in a yr. now days I believe the physical wear and tare has brought a wrestlers peak down from that
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 10:56:20 PM »

A males physical peak may indeed be 28 .with the amount of matches wrestled in a yr. now days I believe the physical wear and tare has brought a wrestlers peak down from that

Great point.  Lots of wear and tear... 
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2018, 09:53:10 AM »

Right decision?

Wouldn’t he get more out of learning in a college wrestling room for a year, get stronger, more knowledge?  Its not like its going to win them a National championship even if he wins the whole thing.

Two things:

1. This isn't really a UW topic and should have been started elsewhere.
2. Let's stick to questioning the judgement of the UW staff.
 
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 10:15:19 AM »

It may have to do with the fact that he may likely take an Olympic redshirt for 2020 anyways.

Curious why you think that would matter?  He can take both a regular RS and an Olympic RS if he wanted to.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 10:49:37 AM »

With his injury history it is a smart choice not to take it. If he blows out his knee again part way through a season then he has his redshirt available.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 10:52:26 AM »

With his injury history it is a smart choice not to take it. If he blows out his knee again part way through a season then he has his redshirt available.

Wouldn't that fall under the Medical redshirt area?
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 09:58:32 AM »

The only reason a bluechip recruit gets his redshirt status pulled is because his coach thinks he can win a national championship. There is no grey area on this. In Spencer Lee's case he will be a true contender at the NCAA's, just as the Penn State coaches thought Mark Hall was going to be last year.

In the last 5 years we have started to see some "Once in a lifetime type wrestlers" come out of the US. Snyder, Hall, Lee, and Fix are just the beginning. When coaches are able to land these types of wrestlers, and only have a average option at best in that spot, they will call them up.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 10:26:40 AM »

You make hay when the sun shines.  No reason to red shirt when you can compete.  You never know what will happen.  Dustin Schlatter won it as a freshman and did not do as well after that.  There sre other examples.
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